What is the nature of a journey? Simple: it’s the motion from one place to another. Mode and destination can vary, but as long as there is a destination and movement towards it, there is a journey.
Is a spiritual journey any different? Certainly the motion is more mental and less physical. What about the destination? Unlike a physical journey, the destination of a spiritual trip — mine, anyway — seems much less well-defined. There are fuzzy edges, and the destination is much larger than a single city or an old castle in a medieval village.
At what point should I have answers? At what point can I be held accountable for what I believe and what I don’t believe? If we’re speaking in terms of accountability to God, we can’t answer. I wonder if it’s different for accountability to humans?
A reader asks for a map check:
Before we can move forward to any meaningful discussion here , it MUST first be determined IF you even believe in the Bible.
The short answer is, “No, I don’t.” The long answer is, “No, I don’t. But there is something very appealing about belief, about faith, about Christianity and I’d like to believe.”
There are some serious roadblocks to my belief, though, and I’ve been sharing them here.
Meaningful discussion: I haven’t had meaningful discussion about the Bible in ages. I’ve raged against it; I’ve declared it backward, idiotic, full of nonsense, and challenged Christians to prove me wrong. That hardly counts as “meaningful discussion.”
Instead of raging, I’m seeking answers. Instead of declaring it backward, idiotic and full of nonsense, I’m trying to understand how very intelligent people see it differently. And here’s the key: I’m doing it all in the hope that eventually my views on scripture will change. That feels meaningful to me, and as long as I’m asking these questions respectfully, I hope it seems meaningful to others.
You have stated in the past that you do NOT know what position you take (theologically), hence, if you DO NOT believe in the Bible, then any and all discussion is a moot point,and frankly,it looks like you’re just playing games.
I used to play such games. Atheism was a new bauble and I took it to school after Christmas for Show and Tell, convinced I’d found something magnificent. I used it to feel superior to others, and I used it as a tool for mockery.
Fortunately, I did most of this in my head, even the raging declarations mentioned previously. Occasionally, with friends, I might share some of my thoughts, but generally speaking, my atheism was a personal affair. I certainly wanted more people to reject faith and embrace rationality (as I defined it), but I understood that I wouldn’t change their mind; they had to change their mind.
And now that has circled back on me.
So, I hope I’ve outgrown games of this nature. Maybe I haven’t. Maybe I’m fooling myself. Maybe I’m wasting my time and everyone else’s. Or maybe not.
So, let me ask you straight out – (and it requires just a simple “yes”,”no”,or “I don’t know” answer). DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE AND DO YOU SINCERELY WISH TO FIND AN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTIONS ?
I’ve often held that many Christians are unable to understand how (or even believe that) anyone could not accept the tenants of their faith. It seems black and white to them, so the third option is helpful.
I choose a fourth option, though: I don’t believe, but I want to. To frame it Biblically, I am proclaiming the second half of Mark 9.24 before I can mutter the first half. I have many reservations. I don’t believe much of it now. But I’m looking for alternative points of view on the questions that matter most. This is a journey. I’m picking up my feet slowly, and I’m looking carefully before putting them back down, all with the hope that I’m moving toward a destination that has more meaning than my starting place.
Not a simple answer, I understand. Then again, these are not simple issues.
I shall await your HONEST answer.
I hope this suffices.